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 Good Comida China in Mexico?? You can't be serious, are you?

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Two words: Wang Jiao. Not sure what it means but it translates into great Chinese food here in Morelia. What I was always told is that there is no decent Chinese food in Mexico. "None worthwhile around here. If you find a good Chinese restaurant then let me know" would be the most diplomatic response. I have tried several places over time and none were worth getting excited about. True, I found some passable agridulce, sweet and sour, and that is pleasing to me. I would even get urges for some of the breaded deep-fried chicken popcorn nuggets with agridulce poured over it and stroll a few blocks over for it, but that in and of itself is not Chinese food per se.

The other dishes were always mushily cooked vegetable salads with a predominance of some color, blend, or meat thrown in but they all tasted nearly the same. The fried rice was... no comment. The best I could do was at home with my own minimal Cantonese culinary skills, but with my pasta maker I can whip out some great eggroll wrappers and won tons. Plus I can do a pretty good sweet and sour also.

Welcom to the Year of the Rabbit. Everything hs taken off like a shot this year. So much has already happened and February still has another week left of it. The year has been living up to its animal's character. La comida China would likewise have the rabbit character as well with its lush garden of vegetable preparations. That would seem a good omen and a promise to fulfill.

After a month-long winter break hiatus our Morelia Amigos, our ex-pat club Friendships Without Borders was meeting at its usual Club Campestre home turf but now meeting there monthly instead of weekly, and having informal get-togethers during the off-weeks, though still on hiatus until that 12 January meeting. Other ex-pats in town had already written us off and were starting other meeting groups to take up the slack - which is all good, the more amigos getting together to bend elbows and chatter gums the better. That January meeting itself was pleasant but uneventful, though by the 13th we opened the doors on our new virtual clubhouse at Morelia_Amigos yahoogroups. That itself gave a little burst of excitement, a new calendar, and an invitation to be creative and get the Club members together for fun gathering. And so we were off and gone with the new format.

For the first week of February our Sri Lanka-born member Michael suggested we get together for Chinese New Year on the 3rd at his favorite Chinese restaurant to welcome in the Year of the Rabbit. He promised us this was much better than the run-of-the-mill restaurants, and he was right. Wang Jiao on Av Universidad a few blocks up from the zoo is most excellent. It's not that there is no good Chinese food, it is a matter of finding it. And Michael showed us where it's at.

Isn't it about the same elsewhere? In a good-sized city anywhere there may one hundred Chinese restaurants daring to call themselves that, but we all know there is only one that deserves the title. I am not going to describe the food and Wang Jiao except to tell you, This is it! You will have to try it for yourself, and then you will thank me for telling you to do so. Tere and I have already been back there again - and it's not yet three weeks past the first time we ate there. When she found out I was writing this post she suggested we go again soon. As with any good Chinese food you can eat until you think you are full but then almost immediately afterwards you want to go back for more. I'm ready again, perhaps tomorrow.


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We were very happy with our meal at Wang Jiao, keeping in mind that we had no illusions that we were in San Francisco or New York's Chinatown.

The Arroz Frito was among the best we've ever had. It had a slight smokey taste, as if whomever was wokking in the kitchen new what they were doing. And I'm not a big fried rice fan. It had bits of fried pork in it. I actually helped myself to seconds or thirds of the rice.

Of all the other dishes, the Chop Suey Mixto was our favorite, as the bean sprouts were very fresh and crisp even after being stir fried. The vegetables in the Kung Pao Chicken were very attractive, but I found the taste of the chicken legs very strong.

The Pollo Almendrado was good, with surprisingly generous pile of whole, toasted blanced almonds on top. There were even bits of mu erh or cloud ears fungus in the dish.

The Spring/Egg Rolls were pretty good, and had the recognizable scent of 5-Spice Powder in the filling. Not bad, but not exactly appropriate for Spring Rolls. Hot mustard (Mostaza fuerte) was served on request, in very small quantity. It was thin, and not all that hot, but by golly, it was hot mustard. For more punch to the palate, there was a small sauce dish of a variety of the dark, oily Salsa Macha popular in Michoacán.

We ordered extra camarones rebozados on the basis of their appearance at a neighboring table, and while they were attractively fried in bow-legged hoops, the shrimp themselves weren't too flavorsome. But we managed to eat them anyway. Smile

We would eat there again if we were in the neighborhood.

Peter had mentioned that the ribs tend to be more like jerky in texture, but we lucked out this time, and the meaty rib chunks were juicy enough and simply seasoned with salt and maybe pepper.
The table dish of Salsa Agridulce was very standard stuff, but was more or less an innocuous condiment for the fried items (of which there were many), but combined with the hot mustard or salsa macha, it was fine.

It was an incredible amount of good food for the 4 of us, just under $500 MN, but there was plenty of leftovers to carry home.
Don Cuevas writes:
"The Spring/Egg Rolls were pretty good, and had the recognizable scent of 5-Spice Powder in the filling. Not bad, but not exactly appropriate for Spring Rolls."

There are very few places where I have seen the 5-Spice used in eggrolls but they are not alone in doing that. Lin's in Santa Paula, California is another such place that prepares their eggrolls in that manner, almost like a signature. I was very surprised when I first visited Wang Jiao and tasted that. I have not yet spoken to the owner about this but by now I suspicion there may be familial connections to that California restaurant.

The owner of Lin's was the longtime chef at The Golden Chicken Inn in Oxnard, California which was established there in 1926. It had long been the most recommended Chinese restaurant in all of Ventura County until he left to establish his own restaurant in Santa Paula in the 1960's. Before the freeways made the trip relatively rapid that was something equivalent to the drive from Pátzcuaro to Morelia for us "wharfrats" that lived in Port Hueneme, but for his excellent food then drive it we did.

Normally I will use star anise and canela in preparing eggrolls in my own kitchen. Those that I made for your Chinese/Mexican Fusion Food Fest I did not as I was featuring the use of chicharrón as the meat flavor with the vegetables in those rollitos we prepard for that event. I used the same mixture of vegetables and egg with chicharrón plus the addition of the familiar queso as the stuffing for our sweet and sour chiles rellenos for that affair. I don't recall any of the guests there expressing any hesitation about enjoying those offerings - that only came later when word got around to local critics about that concoction and couldn't wait to express their dissatisfaction that such a culinary feat was presented. You just had to be there.
Just had to bump this thread back up the list a bit, the food is so good here at Wang Jiao. Tere and I have made seven trips here for comida since being introduced to this restaurant in February for Chinese New Year this year.

Our last trip was over two weeks ago and we are ready to go again soon. Our recommendation: get the combinations so you can have it all. We like the Number #2 and that is what is pictured above, some of it, there just was not the room to get everything into the picture. It helps to have extra people as they add extra dishes to the order. Don y doña Cuevas were joining Tere and I the day of these photos so we pretty much had the works though I'm not sure where the cut-off is with the number of diners and the number of dishes added. Their menu is huge so I'm not sure I want to test the limits. We've certainly never left there hungry.
We were walking in the vicinity of Plaza San Francisco in Morelia yesterday afternoon. It appears to be the gravitational center for comida China restaurants in Morelia. One we glanced into, actually on Av. Don Vasco, served up its slop gooey on little foam trays. To me, it was very unappealing.

Out on the perimeter of the Plaza, I casually spotted two or three more comida China restaurants. At least there's on Italian place, Piccolá Italia, to give some balance.

Somewhat off topic, but we recently had a great dim sum brunch experience at Sunny Shanghai, in San Bruno, CA.

The very next day, we ate lunch at Vung Tau, a first rate Vietnamese restaurant in San Jose.

It will be a long time, I think, before I can bring myself to eat again at Comida China places in either Morelia or Pátzcuaro.
That is a sentiment I share about most comida China in Mexico in general. I thought Wang Jiao was the exception, perhaps not the best Chinese anywhere on the planet but by far better than anything else I've encountered here. Is that a thumbs down from you for WJ?

Those Chinese steam tables around Plaza San Francisco are nothing like their San Francisco, USA counterparts. Not bad if I just wanted some pollo agridulce (sweet and sour chicken) and rice - Chinese fast food. Sometimes you're not always looking for the very best but something quick and satisfying. Mexico does OK with agridulce.
On our way to the Albuquerque Airport last Monday, we saw a new sign on a restaurant that had formerly been a Vietnamese restaurant: AZTECA CHINESE FAST FOOD
I recall a trip I made to Tijuana in the 70's and remember the whole downtown being full of Chinese restaurants almost to the exlusion of any other kind. That would be the last trip I had made to Mexico at all for 30 years and until I came to Morelia for the first time.

I don't recall that I had eaten at any of those restaurants in TJ then so couldn't say how the quality was but at that time there had been a burst of Chinese places in California of varying quality and none of the newcomers was as good as the two old restaurants that had become established in my town.

Chinese food is not uncommon in Mexico but it took a number of years living here until I found a good place. I still cannot comment on what style of Chinese and am sure it holds little bearing to the authentic places but I might say it is predominately Cantonese which was at least how those restaurants I knew from the 50's and 60's had billed themselves. I still know little about it all, I just know what I like. Regardless of style or authenticity quality is quality.
I am sure that you realize that many of the "typical" Chinese food offerings found NOB were invented this side of the Pacific Pond and have little or no connection with the various regional food styles in China! One oddity found in the regional cooking styles of China is that as a general rule, the food gets hotter as you head north in China. This is somewhat of a contradiction since in general food tends to get hotter the closer to the equator that one gets since hot spices can often inhibit spoilage.
I guess the rule-of-thumb as far as American Chinese food goes is that it does not get more authentic than that served in San Francisco's China Town.

Never having been to China so not knowing for sure I would think that although the vegetable, spice, and meat selections would be different in the Americas, the Chinese immigrants that originally prepared these foods here likely based them on Chinese-inspired ideas for the popular foods.

The Chinese restaurant menu has evolved over the decades but I have no idea if these newer additions reach from a more authentically Chinese grab-bag as some of the cooking-style labels may suggest, or if they are solely American innovations. I do know a couple of Mexican-Chinese fusion ideas were inpirations of this gringo author. I do believe those dishes offer some real mainsteam promise with a little of the best of both worlds. No one in attendance at that fusion-fest in Tzintzuntzan were put-off by them and were rather well-accepted.

You just haven't lived without trying sweet and sour chiles rellenos stuffed with a blend of cheese, egg, vegetables, and chicharrón. Phoney, stuck-up critics be damned. They weren't there at the festival. Chicharrón egg rolls with a chile sweet-and-sour dipping sauce were also popular.
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